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Bigskip
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 05:28 AM GMT+7
Hi All. Started doing this for a little change from Military stuff, and to tie in with a Facebook group build.

It's the ICM Model T kit.



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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 06:51 PM GMT+7
Group builds, I have come to hate them!

One of the reasons that I hate them is because blogs end up on the original post, so to follow any particular build you have to trawel through everything! instead of being shown on separate blogs which makes viewing all builds easy and adds more to the site.

Anyway that is looking very good and I am intrigued as to how you will tackle the big leather seat?
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 03:02 AM GMT+7

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I am intrigued as to how you will tackle the big leather seat?



So am i. I was thinking semi gloss black to start, then some oil work over the top to add some shine, and a grey wash to bring out the quilting. I'm also worried about how to do the red. I'm not the best at gloss finishes.

Anyhoo, it's all primered and ready to go, but going to give the primer a goodly amount of time to cure.



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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 04:29 AM GMT+7
Now I like that, very different.
Andy
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 04:59 AM GMT+7
Cheers Andy.
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 01:32 AM GMT+7
Super stuff Andy.

Saw one of these yesterday completed by one of the Leicester IPMS lads.

ICM also do a small set of US medical staff including a nurse for this.

Paul
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 05:02 PM GMT+7
[quote]So am i. I was thinking semi gloss black to start, then some oil work over the top to add some shine, and a grey wash to bring out the quilting. I'm also worried about how to do the red. I'm not the best at gloss finishes.
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For brown leather I use Humbrol "leather" (Matt) then, when dry apply either thinned are neat burnt umber, yellow ochre, madder brown or other oil paint to taste. I'll see if I have a photo. The matt leather stops it being too shiny, the oil paint gives it a slight sheen and a much better colour. I would practice and try a dark grey (RLM 66?) as a base, then black oil paint, probably thinned a little so that it goes on smoothly. This should give you nice shadows in and around the buttons and quilting? I have just done similar with a spitfire seat, but used burnt umber over the (matt) black, because the leather used was very dark brown, I'll take a pic!

I haven't had a lot of experience with painting cars and therefor gloss finishes but the method that I used when have done it worked well. I'm sure that methods have moved on but I (using gloss enamel paint):
Misted on the first coat (60/40 paint/thinner), this gives a key and is left for a couple of minutes. The next coat is misted on but a little heavier than the first and is left for 10 minutes. The third coat has a more thinner added (50/50) and is a proper colour coat, this is left for 20 minutes and while waiting look over the surface and pick out any bits of crap while the paint is wet. The next coat, which can be the last one (depending how things are looking), has more thinner added (40/60), another proper coat and pick out any bits. If it looks like another coat is required again thin the paint (30/70), this is now to unify the surface and again painted after 20 minutes of the previous coat. You can take this further using the same formula, but I would suggest practicing this.

This doesn't really show the finish but was painted with this method as was a Jaguar in white (which I don't have anymore)




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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 05:20 PM GMT+7
Cool build Andy, I'm following!

Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 07:00 PM GMT+7

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I haven't had a lot of experience with painting cars and therefor gloss finishes but the method that I used when have done it worked well. I'm sure that methods have moved on but I (using gloss enamel paint):
Misted on the first coat (60/40 paint/thinner), this gives a key and is left for a couple of minutes. The next coat is misted on but a little heavier than the first and is left for 10 minutes. The third coat has a more thinner added (50/50) and is a proper colour coat, this is left for 20 minutes and while waiting look over the surface and pick out any bits of crap while the paint is wet. The next coat, which can be the last one (depending how things are looking), has more thinner added (40/60), another proper coat and pick out any bits. If it looks like another coat is required again thin the paint (30/70), this is now to unify the surface and again painted after 20 minutes of the previous coat. You can take this further using the same formula, but I would suggest practicing this.





Is that with enamel paint Mal? I was thinking of Humbrol Red, as i know i can't get a good finish with acrylics. And i do have a test piece or two to play with, the kit has all the parts to build a normal Model T, so i have spare body work, and a spare set of seat bits :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 08:17 PM GMT+7
Yep enamel, that shows that you didn't read my post properly!

You could play with this method, the original plan had virtually neat thinners to finish and I think that I only used 3 coats, the trick is picking out ant bits and applying the next coat after only 20 minutes, as this allows them to blend into each other. I guess that's why more thinner each time. I didn't bother but the final part is polishing the finish. I believe that the original explanation used tooth paste but plastic polish will, of course, be good
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 11:40 PM GMT+7

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Yep enamel, that shows that you didn't read my post properly!

You could play with this method, the original plan had virtually neat thinners to finish and I think that I only used 3 coats, the trick is picking out ant bits and applying the next coat after only 20 minutes, as this allows them to blend into each other. I guess that's why more thinner each time. I didn't bother but the final part is polishing the finish. I believe that the original explanation used tooth paste but plastic polish will, of course, be good



Whoops, i read the techy part of it, and will be giving the test bit a blast next weekend.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 - 07:18 AM GMT+7
Mmmm nice Mal

Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 - 07:43 PM GMT+7
The leather headrest for my 1/48 Curtiss Hawk. Painted as described above.

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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 - 11:41 PM GMT+7
I like the look of that Mal. Hope mine comes out as well.
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2017 - 09:06 AM GMT+7
Made a start spraying the underneath. Gloss black for the chassis, rest of it is the main body colour.



It's not going to be a quick build